Talk:Map Art of MCO

Misinformation removed?

Don't lie to me Cromwell, I know that you made those map arts I have evidence to back it up, so there's no point in trying to hide the truth.

-- cnupdates, 15:55 (UTC+1) 23 Feb 2024

I understand that you're trying to prank or harass me. The burden of proof lies with you, no one is obliged to provide a certificate that he's not a camel in response to any nonsense regarding his person.

-- Cromwell2103, 11:00 (UTC+2) 27 Feb 2024

I'm not trying to harrass you, I'm just trying to do my business - which is to provide adequate and complete information to the map art wiki page. As for the proof, I have already directly messaged you some of my evidence, is that not enough?

-- cnupdates, 18:25 (UTC+1) 1 Mar 2024

The most you sent me was an attempt to prove that someone's Discord account belongs to me, but you did not send me a single argument as to why these map arts belongs to me, except because it is “similar in style, block palette and affects the same the same subjects". I will believe that someone really told you about the map art with Porygon3 or Altaria - at least one moderator checked me when I was building the Altaria map art. Or that player, only to whom I told about them, although he tells me that he didn’t tell anyone anything. And these two map arts are really similar to each other in style and include a common theme and, as you can see, they are completely different from the other two map arts that you're trying to assign to me. And these are the only two map arts I have made on the server at the moment. My friend, just go about your business as you wish, but be kind, stop misleading people, including through demagogic, especially if you don’t have compelling arguments. I am not your enemy and I do not wish you or anyone else harm, so please treat me in kind.

-- Cromwell2103, 22:44 (UTC+2) 1 Mar 2024

Your assumption that someone else told me that you made the map arts is wrong, I did my own research. The reason I tried to link you to that discord account is because that account is owned by the person who made the map arts (I know this because in a message the account actually admitted to making them). So if you own the account you are the one who admitted to making the map arts. You may have missed some messages I sent because the evidence I provided was definitely more than just “similar in style, block palette and affects the same subjects", includng them showing that both the person who made the map arts and you are Russian, that you have played the amount of time to have been able to build and get the resources for the nearly 10 map arts, and that the account even sent a screenshot earing the same skin you do. Some of this evidence may be speculation but if you have enough plausible speculation eventually any other possibility starts to become implausible.

-- cnupdates, 12:34 (UTC+1) 3 Mar 2024

Let's break it down:

- A screenshot taken by me was sent from this account. Okay, I see that you are not considering the scenario where I published a screenshot somewhere, and then someone forwarded it to another resource. Or that we had similar skins (I agree, this sounds implausible) or that someone made and cut off screenshots when I was broadcasting the game. These are just examples;
- We are Russian players who have played quite a lot of time. You mentioned to me about some kind of coincidence, something like wool was ordered from this account and I left the server after 13 minutes, but it still looks unconvinced that I am the only one who could have been, besides, this does not explain our involvement in any way in the creation of these map arts;
- A message(s) was sent from this account, in which there was an admission that he made these maps. Firstly, as far as I know, nothing like this has been written, and there is no mention of map arts with Porygon3 and Altaria. They probably already wrote to you about this from this account. Besides, what kind of fool would confess to a crime, knowing what it threatens him with? And if this didn't actually happen, then you screwed up this investigation. At least clarify first, and don’t draw conclusions based on bare assumptions.

-- Cromwell2103, 10:39 (UTC+2) 4 Mar 2024

No that is not all the evidence. A part of what I took forward including the leaving the server after the purchase and a screenshot taken from that account doesn't really matter to the investigation anymore since you have already admitted to that being your account. Furthermore I have said that the account admitted to making the map arts in the discord, if I had had the idea of taking of taking a screenshot before you deleted the message I would have done so, but now only staff members who can see deleted messages and any witnesses to the situation can take this as believable evidence. But apart from that there's also the factors that make you the most likely suspect: That you have played for the amount of time necessary to build and get the materials for the map arts, that you have bought large amounts wool from people (which is often used in those map arts), that you played during the time that they were built and now you have even admitted to being the creator of the Altaria and Porygon map arts which share the same block pallette, building technique, similar themes that are displayed on the maps, and that they were built at the same time as the other map arts you are denying you made. In my opinion these circumstances are enough to put the assumption that you made those map arts beyond reasonable doubt.

-- cnupdates, 17:26 (UTC+1) 8 Mar 2024

The fact that I built a map with a Porygon3 and Altaria, I confirmed this to you right away. The only question is where you got this information. At first you said that I “allegedly” admitted this, and then you said that you used a new function in an allowed mod that allows you to find out the author of the installed sign, the legality of which hasn't yet been confirmed by admins.

My confessions are nothing more than your empty words, including when using demagoguery. Moreover, I will repeat the question for the third time - what idiot admits to creating fetish art, knowing the consequences?

You are either deliberately distorting, or you misunderstood what I wrote earlier, but I wrote that map arts with Porygon3 and Altaria are similar. I meant a comparison of these two map arts with fetish map arts, the same Porygon3 and baby Sylvester are completely different from each other, both in the palette of blocks used, style and theme, for example.

Are you trying to scold me for buying wool? There are a dozen reasons why I needed wool worth one diamond block for two shulker boxes, starting from the fact that it was a price much lower than the market price and it seemed profitable to me, ending with the fact that I subsequently used it to build map art of this wonderful fluffy birdy ^_^. Or maybe I actually wanted to help someone with wool? And yes, the purchase was not completed because the seller and I couldn't agree on a meeting time.

You are trying to use arguments against me, the first of which are empty words, the second is what is typical for other players, namely, start playing before 2022 and buy wool. And buying wool is quite fair for the purpose of building those two map arts. And how will you then prove that you are not a troll, since you use very dubious arguments?

-- Cromwell2103, 21:55 (UTC+2) 9 Mar 2024